The issue of promotion and
relegation raised its head again this week, firstly by a member of another
ADL side, and added to by We Hate Ben. WHB posted a previously written article
(which was then updated) stating a possible proposal for a restructure. The ADL
has so far stated that the idea of promotion and relegation is currently 'impossible
to work'. The ADL has declined to comment on the WHB article so far.
What the ADL has said so far
is that as too many teams that drop out and so many new teams join every
season, that it's almost impossible to make it work and that an old but
under performing club could be rewarded with promotions to the top division in
two to three years if too many teams drop out of the league.
1. “There are so many teams that drop out and so many
new teams every season, that it's almost impossible to make it work”
This isn’t true. On average 6
teams leave the ADL each year. If you take into account also that the league
has grown every year bar one (2009/10), this increases the amount of new teams
added each year.
2006/07: 18 teams over 2
divisions. Over the summer, 8 folded, replaced by 11 new teams.
2007/08: 21 teams over 2
divisions. Over the summer, 6 folded, replaced by 5 new teams.
2008/09: 20 teams over 2
divisions. Over the summer, 5 folded, replaced by 4 new teams.
2009/10: 19 teams over 2
divisions. Over the summer, 5 folded, replaced by 10 new teams.
Example:
2010/11: 24 teams over 3
divisions. Over this summer, on average 6 will fold, and 7.5 new teams could
join. If the league is capped at 24 teams, on average there will always be
enough teams to meet the league requirement. The reason for so many new teams
each year is that the league has generally always increased in size, thus
requiring more teams.
Table 1: ADL season 2011/12
with no teams folding
Division 1
|
Division 2
|
Division 3
|
Sex Panthers
|
On The Pier
|
Pathetic Athletic
|
SH Pandas
|
We Hate Ben
|
Arcelona
|
Pornstars
|
FC Hammer
|
U Tekkers
|
Phoenix
|
Glengower
|
Commodore
|
Diamonds
|
Inter Yournan
|
Barstuds
|
Geltaidd
|
Gwatch
|
Abertina
|
Obi Wan
|
Beaver
|
Gential Giants
|
Average Anne
|
ATFC Lions
|
NWAUC
|
In terms of teams leaving the
league, there are on average 6 leaving every season. Of these 6, on average 2.3
‘established’ (teams who have played in the league for at least one year) teams
leave, and 3 new teams leave after just one season. So if we say that 3
established and 3 new teams fold over the summer, there will be 6 places to be
filled for the 2011/12 season.
Folded teams:
Established: Obi Wan, Beaver,
Arcelona, don’t return for 2011/12 season.
New: Average Anne, Gwatch,
Genital Giants, don’t return for 2011/12 season.
Table 2: ADL season 2011/12
with 6 teams folding. These teams are in italics.
Division 1
|
Division 2
|
Division 3
|
Sex Panthers
|
On The Pier
|
Pathetic Athletic
|
SH Pandas
|
We Hate Ben
|
Arcelona
|
Pornstars
|
FC Hammer
|
U Tekkers
|
Phoenix
|
Glengower
|
Commodore
|
Diamonds
|
Inter Yournan
|
Barstuds
|
Geltaidd
|
Gwatch
|
Abertina
|
Obi Wan
|
Beaver
|
Gential Giants
|
Average Anne
|
ATFC Lions
|
NWAUC
|
Example:
The 2011/12
Season sees the average of 3 ‘established’ and 3 ‘new’ teams leave the league. The
new 6 replacement teams will be put into Division 3. These teams are in italics. These 6 teams are replaced by 6
new teams..
Table
3: ADL season 2011/12 with 6 new teams
Division 1
|
Division 2
|
Division 3
|
Sex Panthers
|
FC Hammer
|
Abertina
|
SH Pandas
|
Glengower
|
NWAUC
|
Pornstars
|
Inter Yournan
|
New team A
|
Phoenix
|
ATFC Lions
|
New team B
|
Diamonds
|
Pathetic Athletic
|
New team C
|
Geltaidd
|
U Tekkers
|
New team D
|
On The Pier
|
Commodore
|
New team E
|
We Hate Ben
|
Barstuds
|
New team F
|
Unless a there was a huge influx of new teams (which there shouldn't be, going on past averages), there wouldn't be a problem. New teams would always start in the bottom league.
2. “There is one problem with this. I'm going to use
Naked Wednesday as my example here. If they stay in the league two or three
seasons they will find themselves in the top league despite not winning many
games, just because of teams dropping out and new teams coming in, which
propels the older clubs up the league.”
This is true to a degree, but
a team finishing towards the bottom of D3 is very unlikely to end up in D1 over
two or three seasons. As new teams come in some will be better than that team,
and will get themselves promoted. As on average of 6 teams leave each season,
it would require around 8 or 9 teams from divisions above to leave over one
summer for that team to gain a promotion. Also, on average a higher percentage
of teams that have only played for one season, are more likely to leave the ADL
than the teams who have played for more than one.
Once teams in higher
divisions leave the ADL, they should be replaced by the next highest-placed
team. In this order:
1. The losing team in the
corresponding play-off final.
2. The team who finished 7th
in the league above, who lost in the play-off semi-final.
3, The team who finished 2nd,
3rd or 4th (in that order) in the league below, and lost
in the play-off semi-final.
4. The team who finished 8th
in the league above.
5. The next highest placed
team in the league below.
Example:
Once the 2011/12 season is
completed, and all play-offs completed, the teams are provisionally placed into
their new leagues for the following season.
Table 4: Completed ADL Season
2011/12
Division 1
|
Division 2
|
Division 3
|
Sex Panthers
|
FC Hammer (P)
|
Abertina (P)
|
SH Pandas
|
Glengower (PO Runner-up)
|
New team A (P)
|
Pornstars
|
Inter Yournan (PO S-F)
|
New team B (PO RU)
|
Phoenix
|
ATFC Lions (PO S-F)
|
New team C (PO S-F)
|
Diamonds
|
Pathetic Athletic
|
New team D
|
Geltaidd
|
U Tekkers
|
New team E
|
On The Pier (PO winner)
|
Commodore (R) (PO S-F)
|
New team F
|
We Hate Ben (R)
|
Barstuds (R)
|
NWAUC
|
Example: The end of the 2011/12 season sees 1 team relegated from D1 (On the Pier won the play-off final against Glengower so stayed up). 2 teams were relegated from D2 as Abertina won the play-off final against Commodore.
Table 5: Provisional leagues for 2012/13
Division 1
|
Division 2
|
Division 3
|
Sex Panthers
|
We Hate Ben
|
Commodore
|
SH Pandas
|
Glengower
|
Barstuds
|
Pornstars
|
Inter Yournan
|
New team B
|
Phoenix
|
ATFC Lions
|
New team C
|
Diamonds
|
Pathetic Athletic
|
New team D
|
Geltaidd
|
U Tekkers
|
New team E
|
On The Pier
|
Abertina
|
New team F
|
FC Hammer
|
New team A
|
NWAUC
|
Then over the course of the summer, although the average is 6 teams leaving, I’ll raise it to 7. Of this 7, 3 are new and 4 are established.
Table 6: 2012/13 season with 7 teams folding. Folding teams are in italics.
Division 1
|
Division 2
|
Division 3
|
Sex Panthers
|
We Hate Ben
|
Commodore
|
SH Pandas
|
Glengower
|
Barstuds
|
Pornstars
|
Inter Yournan
|
New team B
|
Phoenix
|
ATFC Lions
|
New team C
|
Diamonds
|
Pathetic Athletic
|
New team D
|
Geltaidd
|
U Tekkers
|
New team E
|
On The Pier
|
Abertina
|
New team F
|
FC Hammer
|
New team A
|
NWAUC
|
Folded teams:
Established: Pandas, Diamonds,
Hammer, Commodore
New: New team B, New team D,
New Team E
Table 7: 2012/13 season with 7
new teams
Division 1
|
Division 2
|
Division 3
|
Sex Panthers
|
We Hate Ben
|
NWAUC
|
Pornstars
|
Pathetic Athletic
|
New team G
|
Phoenix
|
U Tekkers
|
New team H
|
Geltaidd
|
Abertina
|
New team I
|
On The Pier
|
New team A
|
New team J
|
Glengower
|
New team C
|
New team K
|
Inter Yournan
|
Barstuds
|
New team L
|
ATFC Lions
|
New team F
|
New team M
|
Note 1:
D1: Glengower lost to On The
Pier in the play-off so they are first choice to take the spare place in D1. Inter Yournan lost in the semi-final, and as the highest-placed team they are promoted. ATFC Lions lost the other semi-final so are also promoted. We Hate Ben who finished 8th in D1, remain relegated.
Note 2:
D2: New team A won the
play-off against Commordore and were promoted, but Commodore have folded so their
place is free. As no play-off runner-up is available (New team B folded), the other relegated team
Barstuds are given a reprieve. The final two places are filled by the next
highest placed D3 teams, New team C (play-off semi finalist) and New team F (7th in D3).
Note 3:
D3: 7 new teams (New teams
G-M) are placed into D3.
This should clear up any confusion. All tables are examples and no disrespect is meant to other clubs or the ADL.

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